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	<title>Comments on: Case Study: The Cost Benefit of Flushless Urinals</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking at these units for my facility, but I am also considering low flow urinals instead.  The financial savins is actually greater with extreme low flow.  Can anyone tell me.....do we need to have these cartridges picked up by a biohazardous waste management company?  If so, I&#039;m not sure of the benefit......
thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking at these units for my facility, but I am also considering low flow urinals instead.  The financial savins is actually greater with extreme low flow.  Can anyone tell me&#8230;..do we need to have these cartridges picked up by a biohazardous waste management company?  If so, I&#8217;m not sure of the benefit&#8230;&#8230;<br />
thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What’s everybody smoking?  First let’s call it what it really is, it’s not vegetable oil that you mix  in your salad!  This waterless urinal  cartridge contains  a Blue “Liquid Chemical Seal” with a specific gravity lighter than water, it floats.   It was intended to suppress odor and it works, providing you change it every month or the stench is unbearable.  I know because our custodian was dump enough to have six of them installed at our facility.   The reason the cartridge needs to be replaced is because in Fluids Dynamics ,fluids don’t compress.  When you  introduce a continuous stream of urine into a small cartridge, the chemical sealant becomes turbulent and mixes with the urinal while  expanding rapidly.   It has no place to go but down the drain and eventually collects at the water reclamation center.
This is the reason for constantly changing those cartridges, it can get very expensive.         The company said  the Liquid Chemical Sealant,  is Bio-Degradable,  it’s  a misnomer!  It’s  only  Bio-degradable after a major undertaking to remove it from the holding tanks because it floats.  It needs to be physically removed in protective clothing and  truck  away into approve hazard  containers to Bio-degrade.  In a major rain fall the water reclamation center can’t process the  additional fluids, so the Liquid Chemical Sealant along with other chemicals gets dump into the ocean or our waterways, causing  a Dead Zone.   The other issue is the plastic cartridge, there marked recyclable.  Those used cartridges are pilling up by the hundreds at our land fill, who in the right mind would pick up one of those stinking and bacteria infested cartridge to recycle .10 cents worth of plastic?   And you’re telling me  this is good for the environment?....Wake up and  think again!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What’s everybody smoking?  First let’s call it what it really is, it’s not vegetable oil that you mix  in your salad!  This waterless urinal  cartridge contains  a Blue “Liquid Chemical Seal” with a specific gravity lighter than water, it floats.   It was intended to suppress odor and it works, providing you change it every month or the stench is unbearable.  I know because our custodian was dump enough to have six of them installed at our facility.   The reason the cartridge needs to be replaced is because in Fluids Dynamics ,fluids don’t compress.  When you  introduce a continuous stream of urine into a small cartridge, the chemical sealant becomes turbulent and mixes with the urinal while  expanding rapidly.   It has no place to go but down the drain and eventually collects at the water reclamation center.<br />
This is the reason for constantly changing those cartridges, it can get very expensive.         The company said  the Liquid Chemical Sealant,  is Bio-Degradable,  it’s  a misnomer!  It’s  only  Bio-degradable after a major undertaking to remove it from the holding tanks because it floats.  It needs to be physically removed in protective clothing and  truck  away into approve hazard  containers to Bio-degrade.  In a major rain fall the water reclamation center can’t process the  additional fluids, so the Liquid Chemical Sealant along with other chemicals gets dump into the ocean or our waterways, causing  a Dead Zone.   The other issue is the plastic cartridge, there marked recyclable.  Those used cartridges are pilling up by the hundreds at our land fill, who in the right mind would pick up one of those stinking and bacteria infested cartridge to recycle .10 cents worth of plastic?   And you’re telling me  this is good for the environment?&#8230;.Wake up and  think again!</p>
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