http://www.triplepundit.com/2005/12/good-news-from-china-the-wake-up-call-is-ringing/ Business, Better. Since 2005 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.triplepundit.com/2005/12/good-news-from-china-the-wake-up-call-is-ringing/comment-page-1/#comment-13621 Ken Chung Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:44:35 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2005/12/good-news-from-china-the-wake-up-call-is-ringing/#comment-13621 I can think of more examples along the same lines ... cultural causes led to the complete destruction of bison in North America, the shutdown of fisheries in the Grand Banks, and oh yes the same causes will lead to removing all (one year's worth of consumption) natural gas in the Arctic Nat'l Wildlife Refuge. You may be taking Jared Diamond's conclusions in Collapse a little too far. I can think of more examples along the same lines … cultural causes led to the complete destruction of bison in North America, the shutdown of fisheries in the Grand Banks, and oh yes the same causes will lead to removing all (one year’s worth of consumption) natural gas in the Arctic Nat’l Wildlife Refuge.
You may be taking Jared Diamond’s conclusions in Collapse a little too far.

]]> http://www.triplepundit.com/2005/12/good-news-from-china-the-wake-up-call-is-ringing/comment-page-1/#comment-13620 dorothyblueeyes Sun, 18 Dec 2005 05:46:39 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2005/12/good-news-from-china-the-wake-up-call-is-ringing/#comment-13620 Probably not going to affect change with the Chinese govt.Why?Cause,basically,they are in the court with"Easter-Islanders".They would rather cut down the last tree on the island,than change their self-destructive course,and save themselves. It comes down to their cultural and governmental psyches. That is really what determines what a human group does,than "thinking" or "logic." Cultural and societal programming determines what a society does,rather than even the logic of saving their race from self-destruction. That is what determines most of the things that human societies and nations do;look at some of the other examples around the world. (Go ahead,you can find many.) Rather than going by their logic,and realizing that certain courses would destroy them,they go against their logic,and follow societal and cultural programming,because human beings and societys,and nations,are creatures of programming. Yes,that pertains to races and nations,as well as individuals. Many of us,on the individual level,constantly do self-destructive things,and cannot stop ourselves. We even KNOW that we are doing it,and still cannot stop ourselves,yet we cannot change our programming that makes us do it!! This applies to races and nations,or rather,societies because societies run on "programming" and culture,rather than "thinking" and "logic." I suppose the Easter-Islanders are the ultimate example. I do not believe that the Chinsese are going to stop their self-destructive course. I know human beings,and their societies,and the past,too well,to bet any money on them changing now. Face it,human beings,though they have large brains,do not depend on them to make their ultimate decisions.They depend on their cultures,and their societal programming.Not logic or thinking. Probably not going to affect change with the Chinese govt.Why?Cause,basically,they are in the court with”Easter-Islanders”.They would rather cut down the last tree on the island,than change their self-destructive course,and save themselves. It comes down to their cultural and governmental psyches. That is really what determines what a human group does,than “thinking” or
“logic.” Cultural and societal programming determines what a society does,rather than even the logic of saving their race from self-destruction.
That is what determines most of the things that human societies and nations do;look at some of the other examples around the world. (Go ahead,you can find many.) Rather than going by their logic,and realizing that certain courses would destroy them,they go against their logic,and follow societal and cultural programming,because human beings and societys,and nations,are creatures of programming.
Yes,that pertains to races and nations,as well as individuals. Many of us,on the individual level,constantly do self-destructive things,and cannot stop ourselves. We even KNOW that we are doing it,and still cannot stop ourselves,yet we cannot change our programming that makes us do it!!
This applies to races and nations,or rather,societies because societies run on “programming” and culture,rather than “thinking” and “logic.” I suppose the Easter-Islanders are the ultimate example.
I do not believe that the Chinsese are going to stop their self-destructive course. I know human beings,and their societies,and the past,too well,to bet any money on them changing now. Face it,human beings,though they have large brains,do not depend on them to make their ultimate decisions.They depend on their cultures,and their societal programming.Not logic or thinking.

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