http://www.triplepundit.com/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/ Business, Better. Since 2005 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:05:32 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.triplepundit.com/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13906 Doug Mon, 12 Jun 2006 09:00:00 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/#comment-13906 hmmmmmmmmm, Absolutely ridiculous to compare trucking with cargo ships - the emissions are nowhere near the same scale, nor any pollution. But, you fail to mention that many shipping companies offer a 'door-door' service. So, advocating green ships is fine. But, if they offload the container to be transported by a 'sub-contractor' 200 miles in a gas guzzling c02 / Sulphur machine??? Who's responsibility is that?? The multi-modal nature of international transport carries the same inherent problems as many environmental issues i.e. who's responsibility is it? hmmmmmmmmm,
Absolutely ridiculous to compare trucking with cargo ships – the emissions are nowhere near the same scale, nor any pollution.
But, you fail to mention that many shipping companies offer a ‘door-door’ service. So, advocating green ships is fine. But, if they offload the container to be transported by a ’sub-contractor’ 200 miles in a gas guzzling c02 / Sulphur machine??? Who’s responsibility is that??
The multi-modal nature of international transport carries the same inherent problems as many environmental issues i.e. who’s responsibility is it?

]]> http://www.triplepundit.com/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13905 dave Thu, 25 May 2006 18:58:30 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/#comment-13905 Kelly, while YOU made some good points, you fail to point out that the average truck journey is an order of magnitude shorter than the average ship's journey, and, regarding ballast organisms, that controlling US ports will be at US taxpayer and US consumer expense, while lack of control at the remainder of the world's ports will result in increased shipments in and through non-US, non-controlled ports. Tanstaafl. Kelly, while YOU made some good points, you fail to point out that the average truck journey is an order of magnitude shorter than the average ship’s journey, and, regarding ballast organisms, that controlling US ports will be at US taxpayer and US consumer expense, while lack of control at the remainder of the world’s ports will result in increased shipments in and through non-US, non-controlled ports. Tanstaafl.

]]> http://www.triplepundit.com/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13904 dave Thu, 25 May 2006 18:58:07 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/#comment-13904 Kelly, while YOU made some good points, you fail to point out that the average truck journey is an order of magnitude shorter than the average ship's journey, and, regarding ballast organisms, that controlling US ports will be at US taxpayer and US consumer expense, while lack of control at the remainder of the world's ports will result in increased shipments in and through non-US, non-controlled ports. Tanstaafl. Kelly, while YOU made some good points, you fail to point out that the average truck journey is an order of magnitude shorter than the average ship’s journey, and, regarding ballast organisms, that controlling US ports will be at US taxpayer and US consumer expense, while lack of control at the remainder of the world’s ports will result in increased shipments in and through non-US, non-controlled ports. Tanstaafl.

]]> http://www.triplepundit.com/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13903 Kelly Thu, 25 May 2006 18:07:45 +0000 http://www.triplepundit.com/wordpress/2006/05/the-hidden-costs-of-shipping/#comment-13903 While Joel made some good points, he also misled the reader on two points in particular. He said that a cargo ship emits as much pollution as 2000 trucks, which might seem shocking until you realize that a container ship can carry up to 3500 truck's worth of cargo. Thus, a ship pollutes less per container than a truck does. Also he brought up the ballast water issue and referenced a ballast water sample taken in Canada that contained a lot of invasive organisms. He failed to mention the fact that in the US, ships are required to exchange ballast water from the previous port with mid-ocean water, which has a lot fewer critters that could survive to create a problem at the next port. The US Coast Guard is nearly done developing a standard for ballast water treatment, and there are responsible shipping companies working to test out new technologies to reduce air emissions and to improve ballast water treatment. While Joel made some good points, he also misled the reader on two points in particular. He said that a cargo ship emits as much pollution as 2000 trucks, which might seem shocking until you realize that a container ship can carry up to 3500 truck’s worth of cargo. Thus, a ship pollutes less per container than a truck does.
Also he brought up the ballast water issue and referenced a ballast water sample taken in Canada that contained a lot of invasive organisms. He failed to mention the fact that in the US, ships are required to exchange ballast water from the previous port with mid-ocean water, which has a lot fewer critters that could survive to create a problem at the next port. The US Coast Guard is nearly done developing a standard for ballast water treatment, and there are responsible shipping companies working to test out new technologies to reduce air emissions and to improve ballast water treatment.

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