Comments on: The Real Green Car of the Year Award 2008

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By: Studaddy

Studaddy — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:58:16 +0000

Really McCoy? You think a 50% increase in fuel economy is ridiculous? First of all, the beauty of a Tahoe Hybrid is that in one year, with GMs new hybrid system, a full size truck gets 30% better fuel-efficiency overall, which is very significant because they can use this system in many other models pretty easily. Second, its pretty obvious that making something like a motorcycle will get better mileage than that of a bus, but if you calculate per person fuel economy for those riding the bus you’ll find it actually is more fuel efficient. You can’t compare two completely different types of cars and whine that “Oh, this gets better mileage, its better.” Your argument is very ignorant. Your ridiculous!

By: Patrick McCoy

Patrick McCoy — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:14:51 +0000

Preposterous! An SUV awarded the crown of “Green Car of the Year”? Reeks of political back room play. Simply reinforces the wasteful behavior of Americans. What about the amount of materials involved in the manufacturing of the SUV vs other vehicles? The amount of energy consumed in manufacturing? Greencar.com seems to me to be just another front man for the automotive industry. The criteria for determining the green car of the year certainly seems to skew the results towards the most favored automobile, a large and ultimately wasteful vehicle for transporting usually only one human being around town. And to celebrate this as a significant achievement? Ridiculous!

By: Shannon Arvizu

Shannon Arvizu — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:12:18 +0000

Thank you for your comments, greencar.com. Your magazine has definitely been a forerunner in the sustainable transportation field. And it is true, it is about time that SUVs get better gas mileage and industry manufacturers should be rewarded as such.
Nonetheless, plug-in hybrids have demonstrated their feasibility and affordability. A Toyota Prius + Conversion = approx. $32-34,000. If you factor in the cost savings in fuel over the lifetime of the car, it makes even more economic sense to convert your Prius. (The Chevy Tahoe, by comparison, starts at $55,000, but this is probably an unfair comparison to begin with, because they each cater to different consumers.)
Pluginconversions.com can convert your Prius in one day. Hopefully, with the work of enterprising conversion mechanics and evolving state policies, like Californi’s ZEV requirements, we will see more plug-in hybrids in 2008 than ever before.

By: GreenCar

GreenCar — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:47:57 +0000

This is not as simplistic as comparing 21 mpg to 100 mpg. It is meaningless to name a vehicle “Green Car of the Year” unless it’s available for consumers to buy. If they’re not available, then they have no chance of making any kind of difference in emisisons or oil displacement.
Plug-in hybrids are a great concept and they will hopefully make it to the consumer market sooner than later. But today they cost over $10,000 more than a conventional hybrid and there clearly needs to be more experience with these vehicles before they are declared a “consumer” product. Even HyMotion, which says it will market plug-in kits next year, will be focusing on fleets (and not consumers) at approved conversion centers.
Let’s pull for plug-ins but not be blinded to the reality that they are not yet ready for prime-time. And while we’re at it, let’s acknowledge that vehicles of all types — including SUVs — will be around for some time. All of them need to achieve much better fuel efficiency. The real Green Car of the Year is the 2008 Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, which Green Car Journal recognized in part because of its 50 percent improvement in city fuel economy…a milestone never before seen in a large SUV. All vehicles need this kind of fuel efficiency improvement. -
GreenCar.com

By: Shannon Arvizu

Shannon Arvizu — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:29:19 +0000

Actually, a recent study shows that plug-in hybrids would significantly reduce carbon output. See a synopsis of the report from the International Herald Tribure: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/19/europe/hybrid.php

By: Roaster YY

Roaster YY — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:27:50 +0000

I think ,even if the electricity is from Coal, these babies would still result in less emissions overall.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:15:00 +0000

Plug in conversions are a great choice where grid power comes from renewable energy.
If the grid power comes from coal, plug in conversions might just cut down on tailpipe emissions.
Burning coal to transport electricity long distances to charge batteries to power cars is a very inefficient use of energy.