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	<title>Comments on: Beyond Green: Adam Werbach and BLUE, Sustainability or Self Help?</title>
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		<title>By: Jan Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those hundreds of thousands of Walmart that Adam worked with and he changed my life forever for the better. He showed all of us that even the smallest sustainability choices that we make everyday can make a huge difference to the whole world considering that there are almost 2 million people who work for Walmart. Don&#039;t forget, there are 2 Walmarts, The huge monster corporation, and the 2 million individual humans you meet in you local Walmarts. How many of us can say that we inspired and changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people....Adam Werbach did and he continues to do so everyday.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those hundreds of thousands of Walmart that Adam worked with and he changed my life forever for the better. He showed all of us that even the smallest sustainability choices that we make everyday can make a huge difference to the whole world considering that there are almost 2 million people who work for Walmart. Don&#8217;t forget, there are 2 Walmarts, The huge monster corporation, and the 2 million individual humans you meet in you local Walmarts. How many of us can say that we inspired and changed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people&#8230;.Adam Werbach did and he continues to do so everyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that so many responses to Ryan&#039;s post debated Werbach&#039;s use of Blue, vs. Green.  We can endlessly debate colors and words. Who cares?
The meat of the post has to do with whether we should/can focus primarily on climate change, and/or link the issue to something in people&#039;s live they care about.  Having worked in corporate change management for 20+ years, I can say from personal experience that if there&#039;s no WIFM (what&#039;s in it for me), there&#039;s no personsal change. and organizations (societies) don&#039;t change unless the people in them change.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that so many responses to Ryan&#8217;s post debated Werbach&#8217;s use of Blue, vs. Green.  We can endlessly debate colors and words. Who cares?<br />
The meat of the post has to do with whether we should/can focus primarily on climate change, and/or link the issue to something in people&#8217;s live they care about.  Having worked in corporate change management for 20+ years, I can say from personal experience that if there&#8217;s no WIFM (what&#8217;s in it for me), there&#8217;s no personsal change. and organizations (societies) don&#8217;t change unless the people in them change.</p>
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		<title>By: marguerite manteau-rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>marguerite manteau-rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning La Marguerite. I have very mixed feelings regarding Adam Werbach and WalMart . . .
I would like to invite you and your readers to consider joining Bill McKibben 350 meme grassroots initiative. A meme is a viral idea that spreads. Will you help spread it with me?
http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/will-you-go-350-with-bill-mckibben/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning La Marguerite. I have very mixed feelings regarding Adam Werbach and WalMart . . .<br />
I would like to invite you and your readers to consider joining Bill McKibben 350 meme grassroots initiative. A meme is a viral idea that spreads. Will you help spread it with me?<br />
<a href="http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/will-you-go-350-with-bill-mckibben/" rel="nofollow">http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com/2008/05/02/will-you-go-350-with-bill-mckibben/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;
People like to label, to categorize, to be a part of something noble without lifting a finger or straining their brain. Which is why we have green &quot;things&quot; everywhere - click a button, buy this ugly hemp bra, congratulations and welcome to the Green Revolution. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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The fact that he took on the &quot;ugly&quot; mega-retailer is brilliant! He&#039;ll have more impact in changing minds about sustainability and in the end WalMart stockholders (and hopefully associates) will become even wealthier. In simple terms, it&#039;s a two-part battle. One is reinventing business practices (manufacturing, distributing, etc.). Two is getting consumers to break their old habits (the winning of hearts and minds we hear about in military terms these days). We&#039;re set in our ways and as a whole, comfortably lazy - why change something good, right? The single most important change agent concerning this topic (and many other issues) is money. As soon as the average Joe realizes buying a green product is better on his wallet, we&#039;ll see change. But initially, the burden isn&#039;t on the consumer because there really isn&#039;t a viable choice or benefit. However, let&#039;s not forget that a bazillion people (smart and not-so-smart) shop at WalMart everday, 24/7. This is an enormous opportunity to tap into their TV and magazine brains and get them to ease into changing their &quot;environmentally unconscious&quot; minds.
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The word GREEN as it is associated with environmental consciousness is an agent of marketing, nothing more. It&#039;s a really poor choice of word to describe a more dynamic concept. First of all, green is a color and people respond very emotionally to color. (Red for stop, white for hero, black for villain, etc). Sustainability and/or the degradation of Earth can&#039;t really be quantified by a color, even blue in my opinion. The world doesn&#039;t necessarily need another green (or BLUE) colored website, logo, or packaged product. What the world needs is people breaking old, wasteful, and dangerous habits. There&#039;s nothing wrong with tapping into something emotional like the color green or blue as long as the focus is on the end result, which is a healthy planet. But like so many things in the wonderful world of marketing and advertising, it&#039;s really easy to create a monster and allow it to run wild as long as the short-term cash is flowing (until the next &quot;fill-in-the-blank ______________revolution&quot;).
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People like to label, to categorize, to be a part of something noble without lifting a finger or straining their brain. Which is why we have green &#8220;things&#8221; everywhere &#8211; click a button, buy this ugly hemp bra, congratulations and welcome to the Green Revolution. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&#8230;
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The fact that he took on the &#8220;ugly&#8221; mega-retailer is brilliant! He&#8217;ll have more impact in changing minds about sustainability and in the end WalMart stockholders (and hopefully associates) will become even wealthier. In simple terms, it&#8217;s a two-part battle. One is reinventing business practices (manufacturing, distributing, etc.). Two is getting consumers to break their old habits (the winning of hearts and minds we hear about in military terms these days). We&#8217;re set in our ways and as a whole, comfortably lazy &#8211; why change something good, right? The single most important change agent concerning this topic (and many other issues) is money. As soon as the average Joe realizes buying a green product is better on his wallet, we&#8217;ll see change. But initially, the burden isn&#8217;t on the consumer because there really isn&#8217;t a viable choice or benefit. However, let&#8217;s not forget that a bazillion people (smart and not-so-smart) shop at WalMart everday, 24/7. This is an enormous opportunity to tap into their TV and magazine brains and get them to ease into changing their &#8220;environmentally unconscious&#8221; minds.
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The word GREEN as it is associated with environmental consciousness is an agent of marketing, nothing more. It&#8217;s a really poor choice of word to describe a more dynamic concept. First of all, green is a color and people respond very emotionally to color. (Red for stop, white for hero, black for villain, etc). Sustainability and/or the degradation of Earth can&#8217;t really be quantified by a color, even blue in my opinion. The world doesn&#8217;t necessarily need another green (or BLUE) colored website, logo, or packaged product. What the world needs is people breaking old, wasteful, and dangerous habits. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with tapping into something emotional like the color green or blue as long as the focus is on the end result, which is a healthy planet. But like so many things in the wonderful world of marketing and advertising, it&#8217;s really easy to create a monster and allow it to run wild as long as the short-term cash is flowing (until the next &#8220;fill-in-the-blank ______________revolution&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Punit Soni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punit Soni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, well written and thoughtful. Couldn&#039;t expect better from you my friend. Thanks for informing us about a potential revolution. Had no clue before today that BLUE existed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, well written and thoughtful. Couldn&#8217;t expect better from you my friend. Thanks for informing us about a potential revolution. Had no clue before today that BLUE existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Alex, thanks for the incredibly thoughtful post. I am (always) inspired by your vision for a society and way of living that empowers, heals, and strengthens us all. I agree that it doesn&#039;t stop at BLUE, and it can&#039;t stop at green. The colors or anchors for these concepts do seem to trivialize them, but weaving them together as you describe above certainly reveals their (and our) deeper sense of purpose and vision.
Keep up all the great work, my friend.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Alex, thanks for the incredibly thoughtful post. I am (always) inspired by your vision for a society and way of living that empowers, heals, and strengthens us all. I agree that it doesn&#8217;t stop at BLUE, and it can&#8217;t stop at green. The colors or anchors for these concepts do seem to trivialize them, but weaving them together as you describe above certainly reveals their (and our) deeper sense of purpose and vision.<br />
Keep up all the great work, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Mickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Mickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an email I just received... &quot;isn&#039;t it convenient that blue is the color of both Werbach&#039;s proposed movement and Wal-Mart&#039;s corporate identity?&quot; Well said.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an email I just received&#8230; &#8220;isn&#8217;t it convenient that blue is the color of both Werbach&#8217;s proposed movement and Wal-Mart&#8217;s corporate identity?&#8221; Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Lavidge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Lavidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Thank you Ryan for writing this and reminding us all that we need either to define ourselves or be defined by others.&lt;/b&gt;  Collaborating in an open-source, wiki-style dialogue about &quot;BLUE&quot; is needed.  Is it happening anywhere other than here that you know of?  What about a dialogue concerning other colors as well?
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&lt;b&gt;The problem as I see it at large is that we lack a popular integral model of &quot;a complete person&quot; in the public sphere separate of &quot;things&quot; that makes sense.&lt;/b&gt;  Then there&#039;s a question of how that person fits in to the world at large?  People lack a complete picture of how these colors -- whether they&#039;re blue, green, or whatever -- could all rationally fit together to create a vibrant planet hosting healthy civil societies with empowered individuals.  But having that color-coding at least semi-agreed upon would be a huge step in the right direction toward educating and inspiring the public, don&#039;t you think?  Or has this proposal already been done before?
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For instance, green already stands for healing the earth, saving humanity and reducing the ecological footprint of the individual.  Blue could stand for healing and maintaining the body for optimum health.  Yellow could symbolize the pursuit of happiness, self-knowledge, and self-expression.  Purple could then stand for the freedom of all individuals on this planet to pursue their fullest human potential regardless of &quot;anything.&quot;  Brown could represent the importance of veritable community joined together by a cooperative spirit since, like the ground, it&#039;s the foundation for all development.  Pink could continue to stand for gender equality.  Red could stand for creating an evolving integrated economic framework like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prout.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;prout.org&lt;/a&gt; that seeks to benefit everyone.  Red is symbolic as a way of saying that, metaphorically speaking, money, like blood, needs to always be circulating in order for any society to remain hale.  Moreover, we still need to inspire others to not buy into the illusion that you can simultaneously suppress, exploit, and manipulate consumers conjunct production and call it wealth.  Either white or black could then be the color that brings it all together?  Or in your opinion what could the colors be identified with how would they complement each other?
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&lt;b&gt;All of the creative progressives (a.k.a. cultural creatives, etc.) could use something like this coding system as our North Star as we essentially strive to question and redesign everything in the public interest.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Thank you Ryan for writing this and reminding us all that we need either to define ourselves or be defined by others.</b>  Collaborating in an open-source, wiki-style dialogue about &#8220;BLUE&#8221; is needed.  Is it happening anywhere other than here that you know of?  What about a dialogue concerning other colors as well?</p>
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<b>The problem as I see it at large is that we lack a popular integral model of &#8220;a complete person&#8221; in the public sphere separate of &#8220;things&#8221; that makes sense.</b>  Then there&#8217;s a question of how that person fits in to the world at large?  People lack a complete picture of how these colors &#8212; whether they&#8217;re blue, green, or whatever &#8212; could all rationally fit together to create a vibrant planet hosting healthy civil societies with empowered individuals.  But having that color-coding at least semi-agreed upon would be a huge step in the right direction toward educating and inspiring the public, don&#8217;t you think?  Or has this proposal already been done before?
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For instance, green already stands for healing the earth, saving humanity and reducing the ecological footprint of the individual.  Blue could stand for healing and maintaining the body for optimum health.  Yellow could symbolize the pursuit of happiness, self-knowledge, and self-expression.  Purple could then stand for the freedom of all individuals on this planet to pursue their fullest human potential regardless of &#8220;anything.&#8221;  Brown could represent the importance of veritable community joined together by a cooperative spirit since, like the ground, it&#8217;s the foundation for all development.  Pink could continue to stand for gender equality.  Red could stand for creating an evolving integrated economic framework like <a href="http://www.prout.org" rel="nofollow">prout.org</a> that seeks to benefit everyone.  Red is symbolic as a way of saying that, metaphorically speaking, money, like blood, needs to always be circulating in order for any society to remain hale.  Moreover, we still need to inspire others to not buy into the illusion that you can simultaneously suppress, exploit, and manipulate consumers conjunct production and call it wealth.  Either white or black could then be the color that brings it all together?  Or in your opinion what could the colors be identified with how would they complement each other?
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<b>All of the creative progressives (a.k.a. cultural creatives, etc.) could use something like this coding system as our North Star as we essentially strive to question and redesign everything in the public interest.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Ray Taub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Taub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stellar Post.  I think Adam is very much on the right track, though adding another color to the spectrum might confuse people - unless it&#039;s done really smartly!  People are already fatigued by &quot;Green&quot;, so adding a replacement for &quot;Green&quot; that&#039;s still positive will help prevent &quot;Anti Green&quot; which is an entirely possible negative reaction to greenwash and all the silliness out there now.  BLUE might not be the right name, but it&#039;s a darn good start.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stellar Post.  I think Adam is very much on the right track, though adding another color to the spectrum might confuse people &#8211; unless it&#8217;s done really smartly!  People are already fatigued by &#8220;Green&#8221;, so adding a replacement for &#8220;Green&#8221; that&#8217;s still positive will help prevent &#8220;Anti Green&#8221; which is an entirely possible negative reaction to greenwash and all the silliness out there now.  BLUE might not be the right name, but it&#8217;s a darn good start.</p>
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